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Devesh sent this link to a site that evaluates "Guru Status." http://www.globalserve.net/~sarlo/Ratings.htm A lot of devotion - and an excellent idea - but once again a reminder that we need to check everything for ourselves. I checked a few of the entries for people I know very well. Very well. Unless they have had major transformations since I experienced them then the evaluations are not accurate - to say the very least. I glanced at the entry for Paul Lowe. He get's one star. In the write-up it is stated that Osho Rajneesh said: "Teertha (Paul Lowe) has become a mini-guru. He knows nothing about enlightenment." I understand the authors quoting and believing Rajneesh - I understand he is still a follower - but I have it from a very trusted 'inside' friend that Rajneesh was very, very angry that Paul had left - because for years he had been praising and elevating him - because he was his appointed successor. I did know Rajneesh better than all but a few. For years I lived in a room directly above his. The second part of the statement is definitely true. I know absolutely nothing about enlightenment - or even if there is such a thing. I have not talked about enlightenment - not only is it not my language, but if what I have experienced of people who say they are enlightened is so - then I am for sure not interested. The first part - just a brief perusal will reveal that one of the things I have stressed, and still do, is that the messenger is of no importance, or what they deliver - the only thing that is relevant to the reader/listener is what happens to them when they get the info. And I will add - followers are a pain in the... whatever. If you have no confidence in yourself; if you feel lost; unworthy; then you are likely to seek adoration from others. But how unintelligent - to seek approval from such silly people. Once a certain level of awakening has happened then one seeks to be as invisible as possible - while still responding to any response that occurs - to be available to share experiences. I know people do seek such adoration and they can get addicted to it. You can't really do it until they are dead and someone publishes the facts, but many, many famous people were(are) an absolute mess inside. Some people love being recognised. When it is an equal energy, with love and gratitude, it can be nourishing - but adoration sucks. Literally. I do like a certain amount of preferential treatment. I like it when travelling business class and I get to avoid long lines, but personal preferential treatment I have not taken advantage of - like getting in front of the line/queue for food or toilets. It is demeaning of the other. Once a certain level of waking up happens it is so obvious that even if the other person does not realise it - we are all equal. Abso-fucking-lutely. And thus respect is natural - unavoidable. Actually, it is more than respect, even more than love - it just is. The following article is worth reading. Have fun... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "In the end, truth will out. Won’t it? Maybe not. Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger." “The general idea is that it’s absolutely threatening to admit you’re wrong,” says political scientist Brendan Nyhan, the lead researcher on the Michigan study. The phenomenon — known as “backfire” — is “a natural defence mechanism to avoid that cognitive dissonance.” "it appears that misinformed people often have some of the strongest political opinions." " How can we have things so wrong, and be so sure that we’re right? Part of the answer lies in the way our brains are wired. Generally, people tend to seek consistency. There is a substantial body of psychological research showing that people tend to interpret information with an eye toward reinforcing their pre-existing" Very good study/article: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article25936.htm
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